Over in Goose Creek, SC, life imitates the movies...sort of.
His friend, 28-year-old Matthew Laberge, met an officer at the hospital’s entrance. Laberge told the officer that he watched other Two Keys customers gamble on billiards games at 6 a.m. Laberge said one of the patrons placed a bet, which the bar manager covered, and the customer then left without paying.
That’s why, according to Laberge, the unnamed manager “became irate and ordered the bouncers of the establishment to lock the doors” with about 20 people inside, the police report says.
Laberge told the officer that the manager and bouncers demanded that someone come up with the money. Laberge tried to reason with the manager that he never bet on the game, but a bouncer then asked the manager for “the green light,” the report says.
The bouncer then grabbed a pool stick and broke it over a pool table, Laberge told police. The bouncer took the thicker end of the stick and hit Drawdy in the back of the head, rendering him temporarily unconscious, according to the report.
Laberge told police he left $100 on a table and that the bar manager eventually unlocked the front door and told the patrons to get out and “not to (mess) with Two Keys.”
So, you CCW holders: how do you think you'd handle this situation?
And, as a bonus, here's the movie clip that inspired the blog post title:
Update:The bar employees have been fired and arrested.
Friday, April 27, 2012
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4 comments:
I'd like to tbink I'd sit back in my corner seat (always keep back to wall in bars) and order another beer as I dial 911, and make a faise imprisonment complaint. I don't bet on pool games, ain't gonna pay for one. JohninMd(help)
Love that movie clip.
As to what I'd do...I don't look for or start trouble, but I'm not going to take a hit from a pool cue while I still possess the means to stop it.
I like Anon's response.
Here in NY, Article 35 covers use of force, including deadly force.
Use of deadly force is allowed when "the actor reasonably believes that such other person is using or about to use deadly physical force", "necessary to defend himself, herself or a third person", "He or she reasonably believes that such other person is committing or attempting to commit a kidnapping, forcible rape, forcible criminal sexual act or robbery".
I think you'd have a hard time making an argument for kidnapping, since (A) you're in a fixed location, and (B) you are able to communicate freely with the outside world. False imprisonment is a much better choice, but not justification for lethal force.
*However*, the bouncer hitting someone with a broken cue hard enough to cause unconsciousness IS pretty clearly "using or about to use deadly physical force", and deadly force to defend an non-aggressor third party IS justified. Would I use it? Tough call. I know what I think my answer is, but it's going to be heavily situation-dependent.
This is covered in the 101 class
"Don't go to to stupid places, hang with stupid people and do stupid things. Especially not all at once."
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